Curse

mint · Mar 30, 2006, 02:46 AM // 02:46

I just realized a few minutes ago that while the other three element types have a "conjure" spell, there is no "Conjure Earth" (or whatever it may be). I can't think of any reason why this is so, other than the fact that conjuring earth simply doesn't sound as cool as conjuring fire. Is there any logical explanation?

Francis Crawford · Mar 30, 2006, 03:01 AM // 03:01

Hmm. I think I saw that Mantra of Earth is coming in Factions.

But not Conjure Earth, IIRC, which I may well not be.

SnipiousMax · Mar 30, 2006, 04:38 AM // 04:38

Truth be told... I think someone just forgot about it.

Formina · Mar 30, 2006, 05:38 AM // 05:38

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Originally Posted by Francis Crawford

Hmm. I think I saw that Mantra of Earth is coming in Factions.

Mantra of Earth is a Prophecies skill.

Reply to OP: Not entirely sure, but they don't have a "Mind" spell for Earth aswell.

Thom Bangalter · Mar 30, 2006, 09:41 AM // 09:41

it's a good question. It would be nice if my kd+as warrior could throw up some extra mud damage as well.

LightningHell · Mar 30, 2006, 10:00 AM // 10:00

Well, they don't have a Flare skill for Air...not that I want it.

Warcheif_Jonval · Mar 30, 2006, 05:59 PM // 17:59

Its the fact that earth is cataclysmic in style for the offence, unlike the other 3, which are more or less just controlling the air and the substances in it.

Earth on the other hand, controls what you stand on. A geomancer needs something done, he makes the ground under your feet shift so you get crushed, fall into a pit, get hit by a wave of earth, or get slammed inthe face by a wave of rocks, dust and other random things on the ground AND a burst of air.

If they did impliment a earth line conjure spell, it would probobly have something to do with magnitisim. (besides, conjuring earth seems a little redundant....) "im gonna toss this rock at you, and when it hits, its bounce off and hit you AGAIN! w00t!"

Francis Crawford · Mar 30, 2006, 06:48 PM // 18:48

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Originally Posted by LightningHell

Well, they don't have a Flare skill for Air...not that I want it.

They added it in Factions -- Ice Spear with crackling noises, basically.

Maedhros · Mar 30, 2006, 11:44 PM // 23:44

Well, they don't get conjure earth because earth with the new factions spells should be able to do as much damage as other elements...And there is already many enchantements...XD i do grasping earth for fun on everyone in RA.. LOL its so funny when your allies try to hit them and say WTF?! I CANT HIT EM?!!lol

~Maedhros

Hella Good · Mar 31, 2006, 12:13 AM // 00:13

Earth damage doesn't do anything special to anyone. There really isn't a point in using earth damage on your weapon. It's total trash. So... why would you want a Conjure Earth? Earth is the most ambiguous element- there is no benefits and it has the drawback of being elemental damage and therefore largely influenced by armor stats... At least there is Obs Flame... by far, probably the best EM spell. On the flip side, EM is an awesome defense magic line. Nice on the PBAoEs, too.

Goats17 · Mar 31, 2006, 12:36 AM // 00:36

Conjure Diamond? Hardest substance on earth man. And they should have a Mind spell too. Increase teh Geomancers!!!1

Formina · Mar 31, 2006, 12:38 AM // 00:38

They could call it Conjure Obsidian or something. o_O

Two April Mornings · Mar 31, 2006, 12:41 AM // 00:41

earth conjure would own

Francis Crawford · Mar 31, 2006, 01:15 AM // 01:15

The reason one would want Conjure Earth would be to combine with defensive Earth skills on the same skill bar and attribute allocation.

Duh.

mint · Mar 31, 2006, 05:31 AM // 05:31

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Originally Posted by Francis Crawford

The reason one would want Conjure Earth would be to combine with defensive Earth skills on the same skill bar and attribute allocation.

Duh.

That was my instinct as well at first, but actually for the most part, that wouldn't work, since most of the defensive skills on the earth line (armor of earth, obsidean flesh) are enchantments, and the 'conjure' spells cause you to lose all enchantments. Wards of course are the exception.

SnipiousMax · Mar 31, 2006, 05:37 AM // 05:37

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Originally Posted by Hella Good

there is no benefits and it has the drawback of being elemental damage and therefore largely influenced by armor stats... At least there is Obs Flame... by far, probably the best EM spell. On the flip side, EM is an awesome defense magic line. Nice on the PBAoEs, too.

How many people do you know bring armor vs. earth? Not counting generic + armor vs ele damage of course.

Not saying it would be good, but you can't say it's worth less than other conjures are.

Francis Crawford · Mar 31, 2006, 06:36 AM // 06:36

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Originally Posted by mint

the 'conjure' spells cause you to lose all enchantments.

Not any more! (I think it was the March 9 update)

Haggard · Mar 31, 2006, 06:39 AM // 06:39

Aye, they removed the enchant removal to try and bring back more eles (as well as damage increasing)

Sol_Vie · Mar 31, 2006, 06:41 AM // 06:41

Rangers have Conjure Earth. It's called Throw Dirt.

mint · Apr 01, 2006, 03:15 AM // 03:15

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Originally Posted by Haggard

Aye, they removed the enchant removal to try and bring back more eles (as well as damage increasing)

Cool, I wasn't aware of that. And it bothers me a little more now that it's missing...conjure earth was puts me one skill away from quicker storm kin farming